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Re: “Hopeless for Heroin

I agree, This is a touchy subject to me and to sit here casually discussing your thoughts on it is rude and quit honestly makes me upset. Rachel was beautiful and perfect inside an out there's nothing I would change or think about her. I don't care about what she did or didn't do an neither should you, the life she lived is what made Rachel, Rachel. So if would be so kind as to being a little more sympthetic an help the individual's still feeling lost an hurt it would be greatly appreciated. Sorry if I'm coming off rude or offensive, I'm sure some of you probably have great thoughts, suggestions and opinions on the issue but how about another time or another place. If You still having difficulties grasping or understanding my request how about you just imagine if that was your friend, family, daughter, I guarantee you wouldn't want to see certain "thoughts suggestions and opinions" either. just Imagine... Thankyou.

Posted by Dan Jones on 08/01/2015 at 4:58 AM

Re: “Hopeless for Heroin

Are we really going to have an open discussion on here about gateway drugs? Have some respect.

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Posted by livelife2thefullest on 08/01/2015 at 12:03 AM

Re: “Hopeless for Heroin

Marijuana is not a gateway drug for Opiates. Prescription Opiate derivatives are gateway drugs.

Journalists insult science when they propagandize propaganda as gospel when it is indeed false science. Research the biochemistry or stop writing insinuating stories on what caused this child to choose Heroin.

By the way, Nicotine is orders of magnitude more addictive even than Heroin. The difference is the dose in which Nicotine is administered to the masses via cigarettes.

An entire pack of cigarettes is estimated to have up to 20mg [miligrams] of Nicotene, and of that only 0.1 mg absorbed into the blood stream.

Scale that up to the amount of grams of Heroin an average daily consumption. Europe reports common consumption of 2 grams daily. Applying that same dose of Nicotene for daily consumption will kill a human.

Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…

Stanford states 30-60 miligrams of Nicotene will kill a human being.

Get the picture yet?

No one argues Opiates are deadly, yet we medicate the masses on minute masses of a drug far more deadly.

Marijuana should never even enter this discussion.

Scale down Heroin to 0.1mg of daily absorption and you won't find a single person addicted to it, because such a dose would be useless even as a pain killer.

Posted by Marc Jeffrey Driftmeyer on 07/31/2015 at 11:55 PM

Re: “Hopeless for Heroin

"Rachel started smoking pot in the eighth grade." There's no mention of prior substance abuse in the article. Suggesting there were other causes is without basis in the article and appears to be rationalization, which is addict behavior.

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Posted by muddydog on 07/31/2015 at 10:03 PM

Re: “Hopeless for Heroin

MJ was the gateway drug? You're telling me this girl never had a sprain, dental procedure or any sort of medical treatment with opiates prior to using MJ in highschool Paulette Burgess? I think FAR more kids have experience with PILLS way before you notice ANY signs that they're using drugs. I would say it starts with that fuzzy feeling after the dentist and certainly way before they've had a chance to use MJ.

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Posted by Bee509 on 07/31/2015 at 1:12 PM

Re: “Seven Ways Drought is Impacting the Inland Northwest

Spokane does not use 180 million gallons of water a day, that is simply a lie. A simple phone call could get the actual number. That number is actually about 125 million gallons a day, being off by 33% is unimportant to a leftist, as long as it pushes the agenda, right? Gallons used per capita are actually 25% lower than in 1950.

Warmer winter weather does not necessarily mean dry weather, it could just as well rain. Rain is moisture and relives drought as well as snow.

It is no surprise the river communists found a dead fish in the river, fish live in the river and fish do die. The trout could have just as well died from a catch and release fisherman treating them poorly or a river communist hitting one with their boat.

The water has no doubt warmed up in the past and the fish are still there. The river has flowed slowly and the fish survived. I would not panic just yet.

Much like the "Ice Age" weather that would destroy us in the 1970's, socialist science is actually wrong more than you think. What happened to the much predicted global famine projected to occur in the late 1980's? It was supposed to wipe people from the earth. We will be on to the next scare shortly. I have a feeling too much rain will spell doom in March of 2016.

Apocalyptic flood anyone? Quick turn on John Stewart and get the next socialist infomercial.

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Posted by whocares on 07/31/2015 at 11:05 AM

Re: “Hopeless for Heroin

My son needs help also. Unless he "agrees", there isn't a thing I can do. There is a universe sized hole in my heart & soul. My condolences Meyer family.

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Posted by Kathy Nelson Jones on 07/30/2015 at 9:25 PM

Re: “Hopeless for Heroin

Methadone as replacement is just as dangerous, if not more so. I know too many people that have either used it to detox from heroin, or for pain management, and are now just as addicted to it. It not only can be less expensive to obtain, but also comes with a doctors prescription. The woman I have called grandma since I was 7, is usually on her face when I see her now, definitely more so than when she was using heroin. I don't pretend to know how to fix this problem. I do know though that it should start with better funding for mental health, and addiction treatment. We need laws changed, and more compassion and empathy, instead of tossing these people to the side as though they are worthless. Everyone is loved by someone. Even addicts.

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Posted by Eggsmom2 on 07/30/2015 at 9:21 PM

Re: “Hopeless for Heroin

As a criminal defense attorney--and as a former professional journalist--I must say that this article isn't "News." It's sad, but it isn't news. The family did all they could. I have hundred of clients and most have some sort of addiction. Addicts commit crimes to support their habits (unless they are rich housewives who can pill shop various doctors while keeping under the radar, or something similar). This young woman's story is a cautionary tale to those who romanticize the "Sid and Nancy" side of drugs (i.e. Art, Rock n'Roll, William S. Burroughs, etc.). And for parents and friends it's a reminder that one cannot help an addict until the addict really believes he/she has a problem. Just a sad story all around. I would have published this story under the InHealth section.

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Posted by Paulette Burgess on 07/30/2015 at 3:36 PM

Re: “Seven Ways Drought is Impacting the Inland Northwest

Would have been interesting to hear reports from Green Bluff growers --- strawberries came and went lickity split as did cherries. What's the expectation for the rest of the growing season?

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Posted by DavidGreen on 07/30/2015 at 1:31 PM

Re: “Hopeless for Heroin

Her gateway drug was marijuana, according to this article. Anybody who has endured the hell of addiction or the hell of having a loved one with addiction can tell you that the experience ends all debate about legalization of any drug. If legalization leads to even one more tragedy like this one, then the price of legalization is too high. sXe for life.

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Posted by muddydog on 07/30/2015 at 11:09 AM

Re: “Seven Ways Drought is Impacting the Inland Northwest

The "hoot owl" fishing restrictions are described incorrectly. Fishing is not banned "between midnight and 2 pm". Fishing is banned outside of that time frame. Fishing is only to occur between midnight and 2 pm. http://wdfw.wa.gov/news/jul1615b/.

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Posted by comment on 07/30/2015 at 10:27 AM

Re: “Hopeless for Heroin

My heart goes out to each and every parent dealing the same hand, prayers lifted high!

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Posted by Marcia R. Braymiller on 07/30/2015 at 10:15 AM

Re: “Hopeless for Heroin

Spokane Heights Detox Center.......16 bed in-patient medical detox facility. 888 324-9870
Abstinence from drugs and alcohol, along with compassionate staff to provide case management for continued therapy upon discharge.

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Posted by Debbie Stapleton on 07/30/2015 at 9:27 AM

Re: “Hopeless for Heroin

Spokane regional health district/ opioid treatment services 509-324-1420

Spokane Treatment Solutions 509-795-3143

These programs offer methadone maintenance. It is not only medication but counseling and hope. It does not save every person but it has saved many.

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Posted by April Fairfield on 07/30/2015 at 7:06 AM

Re: “Hopeless for Heroin

They say God has a reason for everything, I still haven't understood this and don't know if I ever wi'll. I alike Rachel battle the same demons daily and it scares me to death not to mention having to witness my younger brother dealing with it to and than this happens. My heart aches seeing my brother and Rachel's family going through this I want to be the protector the savior but this was a above me by miles... If I could share something it is to be understanding with your loved one's to forgive an most of all to be grateful for them. Focus on how they make you feel when things are going good not the bad, because when they're not here you'll feel selfish to think anything less of them ever, I can tell you this through my personal experience there's nothing worth or even close to every moment you got to spend with that person. I hope others see this and take something from it cause on some real shit I'm broken an everyone else thats close to this tragedy is to. Rachel I'll always be thinking of you, I know you'll be watching over us, you're beautiful.
Always & forever
Love your brother,
-Daniel-

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Posted by Dan Jones on 07/30/2015 at 3:24 AM

Re: “Hopeless for Heroin

Suboxone or methadone maintenance, it works, they block the opiates, anyone that needs it, the health district and lakeside on north Monroe! This story is so sad! My best friend a former cps case worker and tang case worker fell victim to heroin, she's now in Spokane county facing 10-15 yrs fed time for theft n drug dealing to support her habit! I beg anyone that has a loved one gripped by the hands of heroin the most successful way to treat is with maintenance and its covered by state and private insurances! Best if luck n my prayers to everyone fighting this nightmare!

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Posted by Angela Sage on 07/30/2015 at 12:04 AM

Re: “Hopeless for Heroin

This story is eerily similar to the one my family is experiencing now, although our story hasn't finished yet. These kids are allowed to come and go as they please from detox centers and check themselves out easily from rehab when in fact their minds are so clouded by the drugs they inject that they should be deemed "insane." Police often don't respond and claim "there are no available patrols." Emergency room facilitators merely nod when the suggestion of an attempted suicide has brought this child to their care and yet they release the kids, even when they can barely walk or talk as they leave the ER. Detox centers are almost impossible to find much less find an open bed for the addict. Rehab facilities are over booked, under staffed and it doesn't matter because these addicts have the choice to stay or not. No funding? THESE ARE OUR CHILDREN! Find the money to help them! One CPS case worker told me this week there is a "new batch of pure heroine hitting the streets" and claimed he had already removed children from 5 families and lost 2 addicts this week alone. This isn't just an epidemic. It's an atrocity that no family should EVER have to suffer. FIND THE FUNDING! Stop letting these addicts decide they simply want to leave. Something needs to change. Quickly.....She was 18 years old and had plenty of life ahead of her. My child is 26 and has plenty of life ahead of her. Hundreds of young adults are out there right now and all of them deserve a chance to the life they deserve. We have to change something.....

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Posted by lyndam40 on 07/29/2015 at 4:21 PM

Re: “Barred from Help

This is too one-sided to be informative or eye opening. How about an article informing the public about the number of felonies (assaults) committed against Spokane hospital workers or mention the number of people waiting for psychiatric evaluations or competency evaluations in our city? I'm sure that ESH is following the law as much as they can with what monies they are given...

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Posted by Purple dragonfly on 07/29/2015 at 10:39 AM

Re: “Barred from Help

Inlander, I am very disappointed in you. You owe it to EVERYONE in Spokane struggling with mental illness and their families to rewrite this piece with your facts in place. It is a hard enough journey without you writing false pieces like this one. Apologize to the mental health community and redo this article, please.

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Posted by Amelia on 07/29/2015 at 10:12 AM

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