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Re: “Megaload Mayhem

Seriously, now. Anyone want to keep the conversation going (without deflection)? I did agree with this reporter that there are many levels to this event.

Posted by lbatina on 08/23/2013 at 12:28 AM

Re: “Megaload Mayhem

Muddydog, I think you are not seeing here that I am in partial agreement with you. I was there that night and had briefly talked to this reporter (and a bit more since then via twitter). There are some good points to this story, but my initial reaction was similar to yours, but maybe for a different reason. It´s not that the two guys in this story don´t have a valid point of view, but it´s so hard to bring validity to these issues to the point of main-stream acceptance, which may be needed before policy change can happen. Reading about a couple of eccentric dudes slinging f-bombs makes me worry that the whole event won´t be taken seriously. It feeds into a certain stereotype of environmental activists, and we don´t all fit that picture. I too would like to read more about the Nez Perce point of view since so many tribal members were there, including teenagers who had a lot of passion for this cause. By the way, no one is putting down juveniles - young people were out there, too, and saying that an argument is simplistic has nothing to do with calling someone simple- minded. This is a fascinating and complex issue right here at our front door. I would also like to see discussion of the legal complexities of the issue, e.g. How is it that it is so unclear who has jurisdiction in this situation? As adults, I would like to see a discussion go this way, rather than dismissing people because they drove a car to get there. lol, driving a car anywhere is ironic for we activists, but we don´t know how to beam ourselves up yet. At least we carpooled.

Posted by lbatina on 08/23/2013 at 12:02 AM

Re: “Megaload Mayhem

Of course having to travel to an environmental protest via car would seem "ironic" in a juvenile and simplistic mind frame. There is no other way to get out to Hwy 12 at night, and I was part of a very full car pool. The "why did you drive there" argument is kindergarten level thinking. As mrbee already stated, the real story would be in a more comprehensive look at the real people at the protest that night, and previous nights. There were a few people there that Thursday night who wanted to see some action, and that´s ok. But it´s easy to write a story that just repeats the comments of the loudest "characters". We all heard those guys. Yes, what about all the Nimiipuu who supported this protest over multiple nights (hundreds) - from Tribal Council members to kids? What about the legal implications of private shipper vs tribal sovereignty on tribal land vs US Forest Service? Who holds sway? What about the environmental issues causing people to be out there at 1 or 2 in the morning? I myself am a working mom who really had to give my time to be all the way out there late at night from Pullman, WA. What drove people to do this? Is the story here to simply quote a few louder characters and their colorful language (not too hard) ? A real story and real journalist might have delved into this issue on many other levels.

Posted by lbatina on 08/22/2013 at 1:16 AM

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